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NOTES:-- Page George Goring, Earl of Norwich, and his Son George, Lord Goring 65 MSS. of Bishop Ridley 66 Lines written during the Arctic Expedition 67 Folk Lore:--Legend of Sir Richard Baker, surnamed Bloody Baker--Cures for Warts--Charm for Cure of King's Evil--Fig-Sunday 67 Note on a Passage in Hudibras 68 Coffee, Black Broth 69
REPLIES:-- Sir George Buc, by E. F. Rimbault and Cecil Monro 73 "A frog he would a-wooing go" 74 Replies to Minor Queries;--Carucate of Land-- Golden Frog and Sir John Poley--The Poley Frog-- Bands--Bishops and their Precedence--"Imprest" and "Debenture"--Charade--"Laus tua, non tua Fraus"--Dutch Language--"Construe" and "translate"-- Dutton Family--Mother of Thomas ? Becket-- Medal of Stukeley--Dulcarnon--Practice of Scalping-- Derivation of Penny 75
MISCELLANEOUS:-- Notes on Books, Sales, Catalogues, Sales, &c. 79 Books and Odd Volumes Wanted 79 Notices to Correspondents 79 Advertisements 79
Notes.
GEORGE GORING, EARL OF NORWICH, AND HIS SON GEORGE, LORD GORING.
G.'s inquiry about the two Gorings of the Civil War--a period of our history in which I am much interested--has led me to look into some of the sources of original information for that time, in the hope that I might be enabled to answer his Queries. I regret I cannot yet answer his precise questions, when Lord Goring the son was married, and when and where he died? but I think the following references to notices of the father and the son will be acceptable to him; and I venture to think that the working out in this way of neglected biographies, is one of the many uses to which your excellent periodical may be applied.
Lord Goring the son, then Colonel Goring, commanding a regiment in the Low Countries, was, at the siege of Breda, September, 1637, severely wounded in the leg, and had a narrow escape of losing it. Sir William Boswell, the English ambassador at the Hague, writes to Bramhall, then Bishop of Derry, and afterwards Archbishop of Armagh:--
"Colonel Goring having the guard of the English in the approaches, was shot so dangerously cross the shin of his leg, a little above his ankle, as the chirurgion at first resolved to cut off his leg to save his life; but upon second thoughts, and some opposition by one of them against four, they forebare; and now, thanks be to God, he is gotten out of danger of losing life or leg this bout: his excellent merits caused a great sorrow at his misfortune, and now as great comfort in the hope of his recovery"--
"I have scarce time to present my service to you and your lady, and to George and my poor Letitia, whom God bless."
"I am confident my Lord Goring may be serviceable to your Excellence in many respects, and therefore have rather encouraged him in this his resolution, than any ways dehorted him from it; and especially because he is to pass by the Spanish Court, where he hath such habitudes, by reason of the service both his father and he hath done that crown."
"Our great minds say, Thursday the King shall die, and two or three great Lords with him, Capel and Loughborough being two of them. Goring hath gotten Ireton to friend, who excuses him yet."
Sir E. Nicholas writes, April 8, 1649, to the Marquis of Ormond, that the Earl of Norwich has been reprieved at the suit of the Spanish and Dutch ambassadors.
In the following passage of a speech, in the discussions about the House of Lords in Richard Cromwell's Parliament, there is no doubt that the Earl of Norwich is referred to as Lord Goring: and I should infer that George Lord Goring the son was then dead, as he had unquestionably done more than enough to forfeit his privileges in the view of Commonwealth men:--
"What hath the son of Lord Goring or Lord Capel done to forfeit their right?"--
Pepys mentions the return of "Lord Goring" from France, April 11, 1660 . Lord Braybrooke's note says that this was "Charles, who succeeded his father as second Earl of Norwich." Is it certain that this was not the old Earl of Norwich himself?
"Jan. 6. 1662-3, died Lord Goring on his passage by land from Hampton Court to London, at Brainford, about eighty years of age: he was Earl of Norwich."
CH.
MSS. OF BISHOP RIDLEY: A "NOTE" AND A "QUERY."
"He meaneth here the matter of God's election, whereof he afterward wrote a godly and comfortable treatise, remaining yet in the hands of some, and hereafter shall come to light, if God so will."
"I never heard that it was published, nor have I been able to meet with it in MS. The great learning and cool judgment of this prelate, and the entire subjection of his imagination to the revealed will of God, make the loss of this treatise much to be lamented."
Could any of your correspondents offer any suggestion, or supply any information, which might throw light on the subject, or might give a clue to the lost manuscript? The treatise referred to might possibly still exist, and, even if without Ridley's name, or in an imperfect state, might yet be identified, either from the handwriting or some other circumstance. Do any of your correspondents possess or know of any MS. on Election or Free-will, of the time of the Reformation, which might possibly be the missing treatise? Things turn up so curiously, in quarters where one would least expect it, and sometimes after more than three centuries, that one would willingly hope that this lost treatise might even yet be found or identified.
Bath.
LINES WRITTEN DURING THE ARCTIC EXPEDITION.
The accompanying is from the pen of one of the officers who bore a prominent position in one of the expeditions under Sir Edward Parry in search of a north-west passage. Not having been in print, except in private circulation, it may be deemed worthy of a place in your valuable journal.
ARCTICUS.
THOUGHTS ON NEW YEAR'S DAY.
"The moments of chasten'd delight are gone by, When we left our lov'd homes o'er new regions to rove, When the firm manly grasp, and the soft female sigh, Mark'd the mingled sensations of friendship and love. That season of pleasure has hurried away, When through far-stretching ice a safe passage we found, That led us again to the dark rolling sea, And the signal was seen, 'On for Lancaster's Sound.'
"And pass'd with our pleasures are moments of pain, Of anxious suspense, and of eager alarm. Environ'd by ice, skill and ardour were vain The swift moving mass of its force to disarm-- Yet, dash'd on the beach and our boats torn away, No anchors could hold us, nor cables secure; The dread and the peril expir'd with the day, When none but High Heaven could our safety ensure.
"Involv'd with the ages existent before, Is the year that has brought us thus far on our way, And gratitude calls us our God to adore, For the oft-renewed mercies its annals display. The gloomy meridian of darkness is past, And ere long shall gay spring bid the herbage revive; On the wide waste of ice she'll re-echo the blast, And the firm prison'd ocean its fetters shall rive.
"W."
FOLK LORE.
"Peepoh, pretty lady, be not too bold, Or your red blood will soon run cold."
And cold did run the blood of the adventurous damsel when, on opening one of the room doors, she found it filled with the dead bodies of murdered persons, chiefly women. Just then they heard a noise, and on looking out of the window saw Bloody Baker and his servant bringing in the murdered body of a lady. Nearly dead with fear, they concealed themselves in a recess under the staircase.
As the murderers with their dead burden passed by them, the hand of the unfortunate murdered lady hung in the baluster of the stairs; with an oath Bloody Baker chopped it off, and it fell into the lap of one of the concealed ladies. As soon as the murderers had passed by, the ladies ran away, having the presence of mind to carry with them the dead hand, on one of the fingers of which was a ring. On reaching home they told their story, and in confirmation of it displayed the ring. All the families who had lost relatives mysteriously were then told of what had been found out; and they determined to ask Baker to a large party, apparently in a friendly manner, but to have constables concealed ready to take him into custody. He came, suspecting nothing, and then the lady told him all she had seen, pretending it was a dream. "Fair lady," said he, "dreams are nothing: they are but fables." "They may be fables," said she; "but is this a fable?" and she produced the hand and ring. Upon this the constables rushed in and took him; and the tradition further says, he was burnt, notwithstanding Queen Mary tried to save him, on account of the religion he professed.
F. L.
T. T. W.
Burnley.
"A girl at Gaddesden, having the evil in her Feet from her Infancy, at eleven years old lost one of her toes by it, and was so bad that she could hardly walk, therefore was to be sent to a London Hospital in a little time. But a Beggar woman coming to the Door and hearing of it, said, that if they would cut off the hind leg, and the fore leg on the contrary side of that, of a toad, and she wear them in a silken bag about her neck, it would certainly cure her; but it was to be observed, that on the toad's losing its legs, it was to be turned loose abroad, and as it pined, wasted, and died, the distemper would likewise waste and die; which happened accordingly, for the girl was entirely cured by it, never having had the evil afterwards. Another Gaddesden girl having the evil in her eyes, her parents dried a toad in the sun, and put it in a silken bag, which they hung on the back part of her neck; and although it was thus dried, it drawed so much as to raise little blisters, but did the girl a great deal of service, till she carelessly lost it."
DAVID STEVENS.
Godalming.
Hone mentions that at a village in Hertfordshire, more figs are sold in that week than at any other period of the year; but assigns no reason for the custom. If you have met with any satisfactory explanation of this name, I shall feel obliged by your making it public.
B. D.
NOTE ON A PASSAGE IN HUDIBRAS.
Butler, in his description of Hudibras, says that the knight
"A scholler being jeer'd on the way for wearing but one Spurre, said, that if one side of his horse went on, it was not likely that the other would stay behinde."
As compilers of jest-books do nothing but copy from their predecessors, it is likely that this joke may be found elsewhere, though I have not met with it in any other collection. At all events, the date of the vol. from which I quote is in favour of Butler's intimacy with its contents; and as it is interesting, even in so trivial a matter, to trace the resources of our popular authors, you may perhaps think it worth while to include the above in a number of the "NOTES."
DESCONOCIDO.
COFFEE, BLACK BROTH.
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